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No 16.30 cap?

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Mr Rush
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Mr Rush »

Shaugi wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 15:44
Christ I'm bundling up/loading the HCT by then, out the door by 9, at first DP by 9:15 at the absolute latest after a brisk 0.8mile walk.
I deduce you must be near one of the glorious Hubs.
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TopperGas
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by TopperGas »

Shaugi wrote:
11 Jul 2026, 15:44
Ozzvaldo wrote:
09 Jul 2026, 18:59
Shaugi wrote:
09 Jul 2026, 18:34
40hr contracts that hold a duty finish at 13:55 on saturday for us. Legacy are 13:25.

If you're finishing at 4pm are you starting later?
No. We start at 8.35 pm every day now, and the proposal is to still start at this time. We're told the longer delivery spans and later finishes are to "pay" for an extra Saturday off every 5 weeks.
Christ I'm bundling up/loading the HCT by then, out the door by 9, at first DP by 9:15 at the absolute latest after a brisk 0.8mile walk.
I start at 6:10, do an hour sorting then throw my mec in, sort my packets then back on sorting when the next wagon rolls up. Then its just keeping on top of packets, pigeonholes and sorting until its all done, scan last few packets onto manifest, check redirections, grab specials and start bundling.
That's was the good old days when the last wagon arrived by 8, now with it arriving at 9 or later we're totally shafted, particularly during the heatwave when the later you start your duty the worse it becomes.
abuch1980
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by abuch1980 »

toonshola wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 05:59
Mr Rush wrote:
05 Jul 2026, 21:59
qwerty2 wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 18:21
heraldmoth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:52
Is this true that there is an agreement today that this end of duty cap does not exist therefore a duty could theoretically now be 9-5 or 10-6 even for old contract staff?
Thousands would leave if it was 5-6pm finish
They'll join the thousands that already left. The company doesn't care - actually that's not true, this has been the desired outcome for a long time.
Yep. Some senior posties still think they are irreplaceable and the business needs them because “they know the sorting best”. While that may be true on an individual office basis, the company nationally couldn’t give a s**t if you’ve done 40 years or 40 minutes. Once your out the door you’ll be replaced by the next poor soul on the conveyor belt and never be thought of again. We’re all just numbers on a spreadsheet to be exploited to boost the financial portfolio of Mr Kretinsky.
That is a totally outrageous comment, and exactly correct 😆 We are only a pay number, pretty soon the pay numbers will be so long they won't fit on the payslip.
Perseus
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Perseus »

lol, the last time we started at anything resembling 6:10am was 20 years ago. Hold onto it whilst you can, but spare a thought for the rest!
Rve83ndxd
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Rve83ndxd »

toonshola wrote:
06 Jul 2026, 05:59
Yep. Some senior posties still think they are irreplaceable and the business needs them because “they know the sorting best”.
Sorting is automatic in our DO; a monkey could do it. No doubt it'll come to your DO soon.
oypostie
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by oypostie »

Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

oypostie wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:05
Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
If I had to guess, it would be EVERYONE sorting on the IPS and packets until ALL the sorting is done.
TopperGas
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by TopperGas »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:06
oypostie wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:05
Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
If I had to guess, it would be EVERYONE sorting on the IPS and packets until ALL the sorting is done.
It would take a clever monkey to do it?

I wonder how many years he takes to learn to do the sorting i.e. put the packets in the correct duty bags and letters in their correct slots, it's got to be at least a couple of years in even an office with just 50 duties?
ted_e_bear
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by ted_e_bear »

oypostie wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:05
Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
Mandatory maybe ?
Just a guess
Rve83ndxd
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Rve83ndxd »

ted_e_bear wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:44
oypostie wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:05
Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
Mandatory maybe ?
Just a guess
Scan the parcel, PDA tells you where it goes, and you put it in the right York. No thinking.
Mr Rush
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Mr Rush »

Rve83ndxd wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 13:16
Scan the parcel, PDA tells you where it goes, and you put it in the right York. No thinking.
That would actually be a substantial improvement on the current standard of sorting which is atrocious either because a lot of people's knowledge is twenty years out of date and/or they just don't care where they fling stuff. It really doesn't help that duties are a geographic mess since the last revision.

Although we stopped scanning Tracked on IPS back before the pandemic when the volume became too great, so it seems like once again everything that goes away comes back eventually.
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SMS1969
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by SMS1969 »

Rve83ndxd wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 13:16
ted_e_bear wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:44
oypostie wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 12:05
Sorting is automatic in our DO
Sorry, what do you mean by automatic ?
Mandatory maybe ?
Just a guess
Scan the parcel, PDA tells you where it goes, and you put it in the right York. No thinking.
They’d still end up in the wrong York at our place, we’ve got one who has been a postie for nearly foury years, couldn’t care less if he mis sorts and openly admits it, both when he’s on letters and/ or parcels.
60091
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by 60091 »

Ozzvaldo wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 17:58
heraldmoth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:52
Is this true that there is an agreement today that this end of duty cap does not exist therefore a duty could theoretically now be 9-5 or 10-6 even for old contract staff?
We already work past 4.30pm on our longest days. Have done since the network changes 2 years ago.
Are you Scotland as ours 14.50 in Somerset!
qwerty2
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by qwerty2 »

60091 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 15:52
Ozzvaldo wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 17:58
heraldmoth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:52
Is this true that there is an agreement today that this end of duty cap does not exist therefore a duty could theoretically now be 9-5 or 10-6 even for old contract staff?
We already work past 4.30pm on our longest days. Have done since the network changes 2 years ago.
Are you Scotland as ours 14.50 in Somerset!
Ridiculous - further north should finish earlier - darker earlier in winter - RM clueless
Ozzvaldo
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Re: No 16.30 cap?

Post by Ozzvaldo »

60091 wrote:
12 Jul 2026, 15:52
Ozzvaldo wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 17:58
heraldmoth wrote:
03 Jul 2026, 15:52
Is this true that there is an agreement today that this end of duty cap does not exist therefore a duty could theoretically now be 9-5 or 10-6 even for old contract staff?
We already work past 4.30pm on our longest days. Have done since the network changes 2 years ago.
Are you Scotland as ours 14.50 in Somerset!
No, England.