More vr's

[ted_e_bear]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

If it hadn't been for RM being able to find space for them on other shifts, they would have had no choice. It would have been either move to another office or "here's your P45". I started in the very early 2000s and my contract I'm fairly sure mentions working at any office, that clause has probably been in everyone's contracts for many years

I started just before you late 90's and pretty sure my original long since lost job offer/contract stated something along the lines of you may be required to work at a different location although it may have said temporarily I don't know, but anyway I'm also pretty sure with the appropriate notice someone could be offered the choice of moving elsewhere if there simply wasn't the work at their current location, although would that come under the guise of redundancy ?

[Bellaber]

Plenty of vacancies in our delivery office

[Acca Dacca]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

If it hadn't been for RM being able to find space for them on other shifts, they would have had no choice. It would have been either move to another office or "here's your P45". I started in the very early 2000s and my contract I'm fairly sure mentions working at any office, that clause has probably been in everyone's contracts for many years

I said what I said

[qwerty2]

Plenty of vacancies in our delivery office

Our office is always fully staffed
Think it’s a north/south divide
Further north - less jobs - people stay longer

[Edward Hunter]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours. They want non drivers and old contracts gone to have a more malleable workforce going forward.

[Perseus]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours. They want non drivers and old contracts gone to have a more malleable workforce going forward.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

[Londonsburning]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

They literally said it in their post

[Perseus]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

They literally said it in their post

Said how they will target some staff over others? Where?

[Londonsburning]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

They literally said it in their post

Said how they will target some staff over others? Where?

Non drivers and older contract colleagues are more senior to new starts. There are your 'targets' as you put it. EVR is done by seniority and always has been.

[Bellaber]

Plenty of vacancies in our office come and join us

[Perseus]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

They literally said it in their post

Said how they will target some staff over others? Where?

Non drivers and older contract colleagues are more senior to new starts. There are your 'targets' as you put it. EVR is done by seniority and always has been.

Of course, that is standard practice - but there is no guarantee that people of seniority will take VR, hence my question of how they plan to target/encourage those people, hence my E(nhanced) VR comment. A few offices in our area had VR a few years ago and it went quite far down the list before any takers. There were many examples of it on here too.

[A2B]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours.

How do they propose to target a specific section of the workforce? EVR?

They literally said it in their post

Said how they will target some staff over others? Where?

Non drivers and older contract colleagues are more senior to new starts. There are your 'targets' as you put it. EVR is done by seniority and always has been.

I think some people are missing the key word in EVR, yes RM can make it awkward but you can turn down EVR

[SpacePhoenix]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours. They want non drivers and old contracts gone to have a more malleable workforce going forward.

RM almost certainly have a figure in mind with "legacy" contracts where they feel when employment tribunal costs are factored in that it's cheap enough to force everyone on a "legacy" contract onto one of the newer contracts.

[TopperGas]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours. They want non drivers and old contracts gone to have a more malleable workforce going forward.

RM almost certainly have a figure in mind with "legacy" contracts where they feel when employment tribunal costs are factored in that it's cheap enough to force everyone on a "legacy" contract onto one of the newer contracts.

More nonsense from our resident MC worker, it would take years, even decades, before legacy contracts were sufficiently low enough to risk an handful of staff taking RM to an employment tribunal.

[SpacePhoenix]

Been told there will definatley be VRS at ours. They want non drivers and old contracts gone to have a more malleable workforce going forward.

RM almost certainly have a figure in mind with "legacy" contracts where they feel when employment tribunal costs are factored in that it's cheap enough to force everyone on a "legacy" contract onto one of the newer contracts.

More nonsense from our resident MC worker, it would take years, even decades, before legacy contracts were sufficiently low enough to risk an handful of staff taking RM to an employment tribunal.

Unless you know how many legacy contracts exist and how close they are to retirement or how soon they plan to quit then your speculation as to how long it'll take is bullshit