Smoothbackground, yes I do work for DWP where I am a union rep also. My spelling and punctuation may not be great but I don't use spellchecker when browsing through royal mail chat. I am not an assessment officer , I am an adjudication officer. Big difference. I check claims on certain sections and I'm not medically trained to make a decision on esa, new esa, ect. I don't really care about what you think I do or don't do. You just seem to go out your way to try and stir trouble up. Now away and make your boss his tea and biscuits because you might get away 4hours early again.
An adjudication officer’s job is to assess claims (or sections thereof), no? Let’s not split hairs! I have quite a bit of experience of FTT and UT hearings from my past career so have something of a basic understanding of the inner workings of the DWP. I remain astonished that you passed the higher/exec officer entry tests with such woeful SPAG.
I must make great tea — I have been home for almost two hours already so must be doing something right!
For clarity, I don’t make anybody tea. My comments were made in jest. I was home two hours early today as I was doing day-off OT and so had the luxury of deciding when to call it a day, not because I made anybody tea, gave sexual favours or anything else…
And working Saturdays and Sundays
Getting sent to any office!!
People are “getting sent to any office”?! That doesn’t happen. Even those posties whose offices are closed on a Sunday have a specified Sunday hub from which they work — and they are paid from the minute they clock on with their PDA when picking up their van from their own office (ie paid travel time). You’re clearly not part of the Sunday Elite Club hence your lack of knowledge on how it works.
Lol. Your utter desperation to defend the new RM contracts on here is actually laughable
No desperation here, chum. Just keen to set out a balanced and informed post to counter the misinformation and negativity above. I’m very happy with my contract and RM employment, thank you. Hard work is rewarded at our place — by way of example, I was allowed to leave at 12.00 noon today (instead of 4.00 pm) as a thank you from the Lead COM for what he called my hard work this week and for going above and beyond.
So was the 4 hours paid or unpaid, as with SISO checking everything I can't see how somebody can leave 4 hours early and still get paid, unless they are scanning out at home on the PDA, which seems a dodgy practice.
And working Saturdays and Sundays
Getting sent to any office!!
People are “getting sent to any office”?! That doesn’t happen. Even those posties whose offices are closed on a Sunday have a specified Sunday hub from which they work — and they are paid from the minute they clock on with their PDA when picking up their van from their own office (ie paid travel time). You’re clearly not part of the Sunday Elite Club hence your lack of knowledge on how it works.
Lol. Your utter desperation to defend the new RM contracts on here is actually laughable
No desperation here, chum. Just keen to set out a balanced and informed post to counter the misinformation and negativity above. I’m very happy with my contract and RM employment, thank you. Hard work is rewarded at our place — by way of example, I was allowed to leave at 12.00 noon today (instead of 4.00 pm) as a thank you from the Lead COM for what he called my hard work this week and for going above and beyond.
So was the 4 hours paid or unpaid, as with SISO checking everything I can't see how somebody can leave 4 hours early and still get paid, unless they are scanning out at home on the PDA, which seems a dodgy practice.
It was paid. All transparent and above board - I clocked out at noon on the SISO terminal in the office.
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
It does seem odd that the rest of us have to clock out dead on our official end time or risk losing pay but this postie can sign off 4 hours early and nobody seems to bat an eyelid.
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
It does seem odd that the rest of us have to clock out dead on our official end time or risk losing pay but this postie can sign off 4 hours early and nobody seems to bat an eyelid.
Risk losing pay? Even a newbie like me knows that the BRTG agreement specifically stops them doing this. SISO is not linked to pay. (And yes, I have read today’s announcement of a trial of using SISO data for overtime so realise this may soon change for salary too.)
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
It does seem odd that the rest of us have to clock out dead on our official end time or risk losing pay but this postie can sign off 4 hours early and nobody seems to bat an eyelid.
Risk losing pay? Even a newbie like me knows that the BRTG agreement specifically stops them doing this. SISO is not linked to pay. (And yes, I have read today’s announcement of a trial of using SISO data for overtime so realise this may soon change for salary too.)
SISO is not currently linked to pay but it is storing data all the time and clocking off 4 hours early gives them data for future use.
At some point you will twig that while you are running around being super helpful and having extra work added because you are so very efficient, Bob has had no extra work added, has completed everything he is supposed to do every day, not a bit more, and is paid the same wage as you.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
My office is far from utopia! That said, it is quite decent compared with other DOs in the area.
If I might say, I think the key difference with a lot of us new entrants is we come from outside Royal Mail and are used to working collegiately — rather than combatively — with managers and higher-ups. Without exception, all the “new starters” remaining at my gaff get on well with the gaffers. We are all used to chopping and changing duties daily to meet changing daily needs — as such, some of us (not me!) have a breadth of knowledge of the walks and duties that matches even some of the longstanding staff. Because we chop and change, we deal with the managers throughout the day probably more than longstanding staff do, and we will often have informal colleague interactions/banter with them. I am paid to work eight hours, and I am happy to work every minute I’m paid for and wherever I am instructed work. Other new entrants have a similar flexible outlook. Like all human relationships, where there is mutual goodwill and respect, there is give and take.
If I thought the workload I was being given or expected to do was taking the p*ss, I would be the first to say so, and in the bluntest of terms. Given the mutual personal respect and goodwill that exists it is actually far easier for me to speak up!
Wish I could clock out 4 hours early If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.
As a new-entrant employee my workload is determined by managers, not by what’s on a particular frame on a given day, “flexibility” and “capacity” being the buzzwords, and so I do end up with more work being added by dint of being efficient. That said, our DOM is old-school and does appreciate and recognise hard work, commitment, etc, hence a little “giving back” every once in a blue moon.
I simply don’t believe your utopian office exists and you’re either being completely naive to imagine that you won’t pay a heavy price for being so very helpful and ‘efficient’, or the manager is your dad.
My office is far from utopia! That said, it is quite decent compared with other DOs in the area.
If I might say, I think the key difference with a lot of us new entrants is we come from outside Royal Mail and are used to working collegiately — rather than combatively — with managers and higher-ups. Without exception, all the “new starters” remaining at my gaff get on well with the gaffers. We are all used to chopping and changing duties daily to meet changing daily needs — as such, some of us (not me!) have a breadth of knowledge of the walks and duties that matches even some of the longstanding staff. Because we chop and change, we deal with the managers throughout the day probably more than longstanding staff do, and we will often have informal colleague interactions/banter with them. Like all human relationships, where there is mutual good will and respect there is give and take. I am paid to work eight hours, and I am happy to work every minute I’m paid for and wherever I am instructed work. Other new entrants have a similar flexible outlook.
If I thought the workload I was being given or expected to do was taking the p*ss, I would be the first to say so, and in the bluntest of terms. Given the mutual personal respect and goodwill that exists, it is actually far easier for me to speak up!
We all come from outside RM.
You don’t seem to recognise that you are being taken advantage of already and that’s probably because you think you have some sort of cuddly relationship with the managers.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
You don’t seem to recognise that you are being taken advantage of already and that’s probably because you think you have some sort of cuddly relationship with the managers.
I am paid for all I do. I am certainly not overworked — the work is, on the whole, easy. I have time while out on delivery to visit shops, to stop to chat, to stop to eat, do whatever,. I could still be doing at least 20% more than I do. I don’t class that as being taken advantage of.
You don’t seem to recognise that you are being taken advantage of already and that’s probably because you think you have some sort of cuddly relationship with the managers.
I am paid for all I do. I am certainly not overworked — the work is, on the whole, easy. I have time while out on delivery to visit shops, to stop to chat, to stop to eat, do whatever,. I could still be doing at least 20% more than I do. I don’t class that as being taken advantage of.
You forgot to add occasionally knock off 4 hours early on full pay.
If we went above and beyond we’d just end up with more being added to our duty or given some lapsing because we are efficient.