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Mothers Day
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SpacePhoenix
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HTPostman
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Re: Mothers Day
We have WTL usually every 2 weeks. It’s mind numbing, absolutely boring drivel filled with corporate rubbish.
Take last Fridays WTL which lasted 22 minutes. We had a video on ‘My Performance’ which explained everything in minute detail, just no need.
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‘Idling is a big problem at Royal Mail. If you idle, it’s bad for the environment, if you don’t turn your engine off you’ll kill everyone including grandma. So, what is idling, and what does it do? Idling is when you keep your van running when in stationary traffic. It releases 4 tons of pollution into the environment for every second you idle. Let’s have a look at the different type of air we breathe. There’s carbon, carbon dioxide, dioxide carbon, carbdox, doxcarb, carbox and Nike air. And that’s just one type.
Let’s hear from Hilary Jones, our chief environmental policy and welfare resource assistant director of green course southern divisional sector 7 leader coaching manager. ‘Be prepared to have difficult conversations with one another. Be vigilant, challenge one another, challenge your manager, challenge your colleagues. Challenge the cleaner, ask her not to idle.’
Now let’s hear from one of you about the impact of idling. ‘It was about 7.15pm, I’d just finished my round, it was a normal day, nothing out of the ordinary, I’d got all my tracked done. I was on the way back to the DO and reached a red light. I don’t know if it was fatigue, fatigue or fatigue but I forgot to switch my engine off. I destroyed the entire county. One mistake, just like that, gone. I had to make a difficult call to my rogue manager, obviously he was pleased I’d cleared the tracked but the reality of my idling hit home the next day when there was nothing to deliver to.’
(Obviously I’m exaggerating and being silly but it’s infuriating to watch and believe people are paid to come up with this. No allowances are made, nothing is removed from your delivery, you’re just expected to absorb WTL and book OT)
Take last Fridays WTL which lasted 22 minutes. We had a video on ‘My Performance’ which explained everything in minute detail, just no need.
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‘Idling is a big problem at Royal Mail. If you idle, it’s bad for the environment, if you don’t turn your engine off you’ll kill everyone including grandma. So, what is idling, and what does it do? Idling is when you keep your van running when in stationary traffic. It releases 4 tons of pollution into the environment for every second you idle. Let’s have a look at the different type of air we breathe. There’s carbon, carbon dioxide, dioxide carbon, carbdox, doxcarb, carbox and Nike air. And that’s just one type.
Let’s hear from Hilary Jones, our chief environmental policy and welfare resource assistant director of green course southern divisional sector 7 leader coaching manager. ‘Be prepared to have difficult conversations with one another. Be vigilant, challenge one another, challenge your manager, challenge your colleagues. Challenge the cleaner, ask her not to idle.’
Now let’s hear from one of you about the impact of idling. ‘It was about 7.15pm, I’d just finished my round, it was a normal day, nothing out of the ordinary, I’d got all my tracked done. I was on the way back to the DO and reached a red light. I don’t know if it was fatigue, fatigue or fatigue but I forgot to switch my engine off. I destroyed the entire county. One mistake, just like that, gone. I had to make a difficult call to my rogue manager, obviously he was pleased I’d cleared the tracked but the reality of my idling hit home the next day when there was nothing to deliver to.’
(Obviously I’m exaggerating and being silly but it’s infuriating to watch and believe people are paid to come up with this. No allowances are made, nothing is removed from your delivery, you’re just expected to absorb WTL and book OT)
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The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.
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kazardaimenu
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Re: Mothers Day
Modern vans won’t idle so they only have themselves to blame for running a clapped out fleet.
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Sean06
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Re: Mothers Day
Still get them weekly in our mc.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 21:16In MCs WTLL stopped at the start of Covid and never resumed.
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Smoothbackground
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Re: Mothers Day
A great post - hilarious!HTPostman wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 06:48We have WTL usually every 2 weeks. It’s mind numbing, absolutely boring drivel filled with corporate rubbish.
Take last Fridays WTL which lasted 22 minutes. We had a video on ‘My Performance’ which explained everything in minute detail, just no need.
———
‘Idling is a big problem at Royal Mail. If you idle, it’s bad for the environment, if you don’t turn your engine off you’ll kill everyone including grandma. So, what is idling, and what does it do? Idling is when you keep your van running when in stationary traffic. It releases 4 tons of pollution into the environment for every second you idle. Let’s have a look at the different type of air we breathe. There’s carbon, carbon dioxide, dioxide carbon, carbdox, doxcarb, carbox and Nike air. And that’s just one type.
Let’s hear from Hilary Jones, our chief environmental policy and welfare resource assistant director of green course southern divisional sector 7 leader coaching manager. ‘Be prepared to have difficult conversations with one another. Be vigilant, challenge one another, challenge your manager, challenge your colleagues. Challenge the cleaner, ask her not to idle.’
Now let’s hear from one of you about the impact of idling. ‘It was about 7.15pm, I’d just finished my round, it was a normal day, nothing out of the ordinary, I’d got all my tracked done. I was on the way back to the DO and reached a red light. I don’t know if it was fatigue, fatigue or fatigue but I forgot to switch my engine off. I destroyed the entire county. One mistake, just like that, gone. I had to make a difficult call to my rogue manager, obviously he was pleased I’d cleared the tracked but the reality of my idling hit home the next day when there was nothing to deliver to.’
(Obviously I’m exaggerating and being silly but it’s infuriating to watch and believe people are paid to come up with this. No allowances are made, nothing is removed from your delivery, you’re just expected to absorb WTL and book OT)
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Philbag70
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Re: Mothers Day
Magnificent post! Scarily, not that far off realityHTPostman wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 06:48We have WTL usually every 2 weeks. It’s mind numbing, absolutely boring drivel filled with corporate rubbish.
Take last Fridays WTL which lasted 22 minutes. We had a video on ‘My Performance’ which explained everything in minute detail, just no need.
———
‘Idling is a big problem at Royal Mail. If you idle, it’s bad for the environment, if you don’t turn your engine off you’ll kill everyone including grandma. So, what is idling, and what does it do? Idling is when you keep your van running when in stationary traffic. It releases 4 tons of pollution into the environment for every second you idle. Let’s have a look at the different type of air we breathe. There’s carbon, carbon dioxide, dioxide carbon, carbdox, doxcarb, carbox and Nike air. And that’s just one type.
Let’s hear from Hilary Jones, our chief environmental policy and welfare resource assistant director of green course southern divisional sector 7 leader coaching manager. ‘Be prepared to have difficult conversations with one another. Be vigilant, challenge one another, challenge your manager, challenge your colleagues. Challenge the cleaner, ask her not to idle.’
Now let’s hear from one of you about the impact of idling. ‘It was about 7.15pm, I’d just finished my round, it was a normal day, nothing out of the ordinary, I’d got all my tracked done. I was on the way back to the DO and reached a red light. I don’t know if it was fatigue, fatigue or fatigue but I forgot to switch my engine off. I destroyed the entire county. One mistake, just like that, gone. I had to make a difficult call to my rogue manager, obviously he was pleased I’d cleared the tracked but the reality of my idling hit home the next day when there was nothing to deliver to.’
(Obviously I’m exaggerating and being silly but it’s infuriating to watch and believe people are paid to come up with this. No allowances are made, nothing is removed from your delivery, you’re just expected to absorb WTL and book OT)
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twoloops
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Re: Mothers Day
Quite a few Mothers Days cards turned up in our frames today, but does it really matter, the public know we are all workshy & always on the sick, our RM top brass always tell the press & news 
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postslippete
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Re: Mothers Day
Your humour is not lost on us HTPostman!
For the record I can't remember the last time we had a real WTL session (think it was several months ago). Don't know why RM bother wasting all this money doing videos like this but it keeps people employed in what I call "non-jobs"
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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manboss
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Re: Mothers Day
Best post ever!HTPostman wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 06:48We have WTL usually every 2 weeks. It’s mind numbing, absolutely boring drivel filled with corporate rubbish.
Take last Fridays WTL which lasted 22 minutes. We had a video on ‘My Performance’ which explained everything in minute detail, just no need.
———
‘Idling is a big problem at Royal Mail. If you idle, it’s bad for the environment, if you don’t turn your engine off you’ll kill everyone including grandma. So, what is idling, and what does it do? Idling is when you keep your van running when in stationary traffic. It releases 4 tons of pollution into the environment for every second you idle. Let’s have a look at the different type of air we breathe. There’s carbon, carbon dioxide, dioxide carbon, carbdox, doxcarb, carbox and Nike air. And that’s just one type.
Let’s hear from Hilary Jones, our chief environmental policy and welfare resource assistant director of green course southern divisional sector 7 leader coaching manager. ‘Be prepared to have difficult conversations with one another. Be vigilant, challenge one another, challenge your manager, challenge your colleagues. Challenge the cleaner, ask her not to idle.’
Now let’s hear from one of you about the impact of idling. ‘It was about 7.15pm, I’d just finished my round, it was a normal day, nothing out of the ordinary, I’d got all my tracked done. I was on the way back to the DO and reached a red light. I don’t know if it was fatigue, fatigue or fatigue but I forgot to switch my engine off. I destroyed the entire county. One mistake, just like that, gone. I had to make a difficult call to my rogue manager, obviously he was pleased I’d cleared the tracked but the reality of my idling hit home the next day when there was nothing to deliver to.’
(Obviously I’m exaggerating and being silly but it’s infuriating to watch and believe people are paid to come up with this. No allowances are made, nothing is removed from your delivery, you’re just expected to absorb WTL and book OT)
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yellowbelly
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Re: Mothers Day
A. 'Deliver this s**t'CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 16:55What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about DeliveriesR5001 wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 16:51While it'd be nice for the acronyms to be broken down a bit more often, it's not too hard to gather that the "DTS" system manages machine sortable mail and tries to link lower priority bulk mailings (Council tax and the like) visits with addresses that have 1st class mail on each day until a given time limit, to spread the load across several days with some logic on when to give an address a given bulk mailing item, primarily to houses you already have to visit...CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 16:02Nobody here understands your Mail Centre jargon pal.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 13:18Thursday the DTS system was switched off nationally so any mail held by the DTS system was automatically released Thursday night. Locally what I believe was council tax letters come through for a couple of DOs Friday night, one of them DOs is covered by DTS, most of them letters got held by the DTS, with there now being about a yorks worth of DTS for each of them batches.Kenfandango wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 11:04Managers were practically begging us to come in and do Sunday to "deliver mother's day." From Thursday to Saturday we got council "changes to your refuse collection schedule" letters for every house, water company "to the occupier" letters to every house and energy company "to the occupier" letters to every house alongside the named versions of (presumably) the same letter... Nobody wanted to do any more after that
Basically computerised "warm calling" with your junk mail, just, with real letters instead. If it's off, you get the lot, if it's on, you should generally only get the bulk letters to houses you already need to visit that day.
B. 'Deliver to specification'
Your choice.
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CarryingMGMT
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Re: Mothers Day
Someone on here just gave an actual answer to what it stands for, thanks yellowbelly.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 18:32If you worked at Royal Mail you would know what it stands for.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 16:55
What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
And to nobody's surprise clashcityrocker, no I don't work for Royal Mail anymore. Thank f**k! After 21 years in delivery I took the money and ran because the job has become a disaster unfortunately.
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Basildon Bond
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Re: Mothers Day
Best I can find (and I've tried to add in all the other acronyms the DTS explanation introduces using square brackets "[]")...CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 17:41Someone on here just gave an actual answer to what it stands for, thanks yellowbelly.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 18:32If you worked at Royal Mail you would know what it stands for.CarryingMGMT wrote: ↑10 Mar 2024, 16:55
What does DTS stand for then? Don't forget you are posting in the 'Blueshirts' forum, which as far as I'm aware is about Deliveries
And to nobody's surprise clashcityrocker, no I don't work for Royal Mail anymore. Thank f**k! After 21 years in delivery I took the money and ran because the job has become a disaster unfortunately.
[T]he introduction of D+5 Letters access services [D+5 Letters access services allow access customers to inject bulk mail at the IMC [Inward Mail Centre] for delivery up to four working days from the injection date] is expected to enable the delivery of cost savings downstream in relation to Royal Mail’s delivery operations. Currently, D+2 [services that are delivered within two working days from the sender posting] access volumes are delivered the day after they are received from access operators at the IMC. As explained in section 4, the new D+5 Letters access services will allow Royal Mail to sequence and hold back the mail (up to a maximum of four working days) at the IMC until multiple items are ready to be delivered to the same address or the latest day the mail can be delivered to specification (whichever comes first). This is part of Royal Mail’s wider Delivery to Specification (DTS) initiative. This initiative seeks to reduce the number of visits required to an individual address each week, with a larger number of items delivered on each visit.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: Mothers Day
Data from any parcel sorting machines, the superhubs, any iLSM, IMP or flat sorting machine goes into the data when it's working out which DPs have got a 1C item
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Mr Rush
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Re: Mothers Day
The logical conclusion somewhere down the line will be all letters held back until the address gets a Tracked item (goodbye RM2000 frames). De jure held back in the MC, that is. It's de facto operation in DOs.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 07:18Data from any parcel sorting machines, the superhubs, any iLSM, IMP or flat sorting machine goes into the data when it's working out which DPs have got a 1C item
The machine stops.
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manboss
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Re: Mothers Day
I'm still delivering packets for mothers day today, where the hell have these been hiding? 