Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

[Londonsburning]

If DK or his advisors have any sense they will offer processing staff a sideways transfer over to delivery before telling them they are surplus to requirements, therefore saving £MILLIONS in cash for the business since you are apparently 90% casual/agency now.

They can make much more cash by replacing all delivery staff with casuals/agency

Agency cost more, and can only complete a quarter of the work we do

Agency cost less, no allowances, supplements, paid breaks, minimum wage. They can be on different hours each week. Got a quiet day, RM won't have so many agency in whereas with RM staff they'll still be in on a quiet day even if the workload could be done with less people.

Keep digging that big hole.

[Woody Guthrie]

He won't stop.
He's been digging it for years.
He won't admit he's wrong even when he's slapped about the face with it.
It is what it is.

[claretandblue]

If DK or his advisors have any sense they will offer processing staff a sideways transfer over to delivery before telling them they are surplus to requirements, therefore saving £MILLIONS in cash for the business since you are apparently 90% casual/agency now.

They can make much more cash by replacing all delivery staff with casuals/agency

Agency cost more, and can only complete a quarter of the work we do

Agency cost less, no allowances, supplements, paid breaks, minimum wage. They can be on different hours each week. Got a quiet day, RM won't have so many agency in whereas with RM staff they'll still be in on a quiet day even if the workload could be done with less people.

Agency cost more per hour than us, there are no quiet days anymore

[Sean06]

in MCs we have to handle 100s a day. Boxes of cola bottles are quite heavy...

Lol you talk on here like you are hard done by with your cushy indoor processing duty. I know plenty MC workers and they are all utterly petrified of Delivery, you wouldn't last 2 minutes in a DO.

RM would never want us in DOs, they'd prefer people on the new contracts or casuals/agency. Most MCs staff these days are agency/casuals. Let's send one to replace you. It's not a matter of if RM start replacing delivery staff with casuals/agency like they do in MCs but when.

Work rates are monitored in MCs, chat too much and you'll get moved or even taken in the office. Managers have to account for every last hour that they use. You see them at the start of every hour counting how many yorks/sleeves/trays of work to be done for each mail stream in their work area.

Unless there's a H&S issue, DDA issue or training issue we can be moved to any section at any time.

Thank god i work in a different mc to you

[Barnacle]

Does anyone know if Angard (or is it Aangard?), will be part of the sale to Kretinsky, or has that been separated off?

[SpacePhoenix]

Does anyone know if Angard (or is it Aangard?), will be part of the sale to Kretinsky, or has that been separated off?

They might be just taken in house going back to how casuals were resourced before Angard, with the local resource unit dealing with them. Angard AFAIK is managed by Reed so it'll be down to what's in the contract between them.

[Jefferson Starfish]

According to their website, Angard is part of RMG.

https://www.angardstaffing.co.uk/about-us/

[postslippete]

RM would never want us in DOs, they'd prefer people on the new contracts or casuals/agency. Most MCs staff these days are agency/casuals. Let's send one to replace you. It's not a matter of if RM start replacing delivery staff with casuals/agency like they do in MCs but when.

Our office stopped using casuals and agency after industrial action. They were seen as expensive and inefficient as they were only doing half the amount of deliveries that regular staff were taking and yet the company were paying them more money per hour. Agency are only ever intended to be used as a last resort on deliveries.

[SpacePhoenix]

RM would never want us in DOs, they'd prefer people on the new contracts or casuals/agency. Most MCs staff these days are agency/casuals. Let's send one to replace you. It's not a matter of if RM start replacing delivery staff with casuals/agency like they do in MCs but when.

Our office stopped using casuals and agency after industrial action. They were seen as expensive and inefficient as they were only doing half the amount of deliveries that regular staff were taking and yet the company were paying them more money per hour. Agency are only ever intended to be used as a last resort on deliveries.

You was probably getting different agency staff in each day so none got a chance to learn whatever they needed to learn. Agency are only supposed to be used as a last resort in MCs but now they often form the bulk of the staffing

[TopperGas]

The "large" parcels are all due to go over to PF soon

We've been hearing for about the past 8 years that 'you'll be losing the big parcels', 'dedicated parcel route', 'LAT driver will be doing them', 'PF will be doing them' (this one repeatedly). None of these have happened yet. I'm not saying they won't but I'm not holding my breath either.

Unless PF take on a large number of new delivery drivers or the present driver's have been sat around doing nothing for a a few years how can they suddenly take on all our large parcels, if they did take them on you can just see RM getting all their "small" parcels in exchange.

[yellowbelly]

The "large" parcels are all due to go over to PF soon

We've been hearing for about the past 8 years that 'you'll be losing the big parcels', 'dedicated parcel route', 'LAT driver will be doing them', 'PF will be doing them' (this one repeatedly). None of these have happened yet. I'm not saying they won't but I'm not holding my breath either.

Unless PF take on a large number of new delivery drivers or the present driver's have been sat around doing nothing for a a few years how can they suddenly take on all our large parcels, if they did take them on you can just see RM getting all their "small" parcels in exchange.

Just ventured into the 'Dark Side' of the Processing/Mail Centres board (escaped successfully) but this was a paragraph in LTB 058/25 – THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE 2025 NATIONAL MAIL CENTRE REALIGNMENT REVISIONS:

The progression of the Single Large Parcel Network activity, defined in Section 5 of the BRT&G agreement which may entail workload migrating between the PFW and RM Networks in financial year 25/26. Proposals include large items (Format 4+) migrating to PFW through direct injection or sortation from the Outward Mail Centre’s.The movement of smaller PFW traffic to RM and the maximising of synergies between RM and PFW Collection operation.

[GRS]

The "large" parcels are all due to go over to PF soon

We've been hearing for about the past 8 years that 'you'll be losing the big parcels', 'dedicated parcel route', 'LAT driver will be doing them', 'PF will be doing them' (this one repeatedly). None of these have happened yet. I'm not saying they won't but I'm not holding my breath either.

Unless PF take on a large number of new delivery drivers or the present driver's have been sat around doing nothing for a a few years how can they suddenly take on all our large parcels, if they did take them on you can just see RM getting all their "small" parcels in exchange.

Just ventured into the 'Dark Side' of the Processing/Mail Centres board (escaped successfully) but this was a paragraph in LTB 058/25 – THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE 2025 NATIONAL MAIL CENTRE REALIGNMENT REVISIONS:

The progression of the Single Large Parcel Network activity, defined in Section 5 of the BRT&G agreement which may entail workload migrating between the PFW and RM Networks in financial year 25/26. Proposals include large items (Format 4+) migrating to PFW through direct injection or sortation from the Outward Mail Centre’s.The movement of smaller PFW traffic to RM and the maximising of synergies between RM and PFW Collection operation.

Which will basically mean that PF won’t take any large parcels from RM but will hand over all their smaller items to us for delivery. Good old DOs will get shafted again.

[Patmanposts]

The progression of the Single Large Parcel Network activity, defined in Section 5 of the BRT&G agreement which may entail workload migrating between the PFW and RM Networks in financial year 25/26. Proposals include large items (Format 4+) migrating to PFW through direct injection or sortation from the Outward Mail Centre’s.The movement of smaller PFW traffic to RM and the maximising of synergies between RM and PFW Collection operation.

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Which will basically mean that PF won’t take any large parcels from RM but will hand over all their smaller items to us for delivery. Good old DOs will get shafted again.
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Assuming this happens and large parcels are swapped for smaller ones, where is the time / efficiency saving coming from? Because with 2-3 days mail that is a lot more bundles of letters filling up our pouches leaving little to no room for packets/ parcels as it currently is let alone additional ones, albeit smaller.

We will still have to make an additional walk/ drive to deliver the same as we do for oversize.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

You will probably see more agency used in the lead up to to USO change instead of employing new recruits.
They will factor in to VR costs no doubt.
They know there will need to be a reduction in staff numbers in the not so distant future.
Our office has halted all fresh employment now for the foreseeable.

[postslippete]

You will probably see more agency used in the lead up to to USO change instead of employing new recruits.
They will factor in to VR costs no doubt.
They know there will need to be a reduction in staff numbers in the not so distant future.
Our office has halted all fresh employment now for the foreseeable.

I don't doubt it. The irony in trying to save money by getting staff to do double shifts could lead to staff shortages and the company then spending that money trying to get these duties covered. Make it make sense!