ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
TopperGas
Posts: 3337
Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
Gender: Male

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by TopperGas »

Why does MW continually say "we" want to do this and do that, rather than say we want "RM" to agree to do this and do that, when it's clear RM are making, or it seems, not making, all of the decisions?

On the one hand MW suggests RM have no money and will probably make a loss this year, but on the other hand we know that they have just splashed out nearly £50m setting up the Royal Mail Parcel Shops and probably a similar amount on parcel lockers? The money was clearly there if RM wanted to spend it on their staff but have clearly chosen to spend it elsewhere.

As far as getting the Government to change the gig economy workers used by EVRI etc, I've not seen them ever mention that they are proposing to make any changes?
tramssirhc
Posts: 1693
Joined: 04 Sep 2012, 20:19
Gender: Male

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by tramssirhc »

What update? The full time release mob were told what to tell us weeks ago. This was promised as a live with Ward and Walsh. Members are paying for this shite. Walsh should be sacked, he's useless. The same goes for the entire executive. Not one of them is in the real world of work. Post 2022 workers have been failed again and won't join. Stop bankrolling this nonsense. Leave the CWU. Subscription money is the only way they'll listen, is the only thing they care about and stopping funding the CWU is the only way to stop it.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
Tman
Posts: 4129
Joined: 21 Oct 2007, 09:57

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by Tman »

Same old song...
Wullie10
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 699
Joined: 30 Jul 2017, 12:07
Gender: Male
Location: Retired

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by Wullie10 »

Like Thames Water. They'll just keep paying the fine and still pump sewage into our rivers. That's the corporate world .
Mr Rush
Posts: 3137
Joined: 05 Aug 2011, 14:27
Gender: Male

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by Mr Rush »

Rommagic wrote:
28 Oct 2025, 18:06
How many long term staff have left since 2022?.
Number of staff on delivery in December was 81,000 last year compared to 115,000 in 2022 (caveats: probably includes temps and agency, and a lot of departures will also be people on the new contracts not sticking around). 20,000 have been recruited post-strikes up to this July, so we can assume at least that many pre-strike employees left and with no day off cover due to rampant understaffing it's probably closer to 25,000.

It's been a long way down from a private army of 230,000 in 2003.
TopperGas wrote:
28 Oct 2025, 19:40
As far as getting the Government to change the gig economy workers used by EVRI etc, I've not seen them ever mention that they are proposing to make any changes?
Labour had a manifesto pledge for the Employment Rights Bill (aka Workers' Rights Bill) that the unions had pushed for which was supposed to tackle these shenanigans. Alas, once in power the government has been trying to shelve it in order to placate the markets. Gold sovereigns trump sovereign government.
The machine stops.
TopperGas
Posts: 3337
Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
Gender: Male

Re: An update for Royal Mail Group Members.

Post by TopperGas »

Mr Rush wrote:
29 Oct 2025, 21:43
Rommagic wrote:
28 Oct 2025, 18:06
How many long term staff have left since 2022?.
Number of staff on delivery in December was 81,000 last year compared to 115,000 in 2022 (caveats: probably includes temps and agency, and a lot of departures will also be people on the new contracts not sticking around). 20,000 have been recruited post-strikes up to this July, so we can assume at least that many pre-strike employees left and with no day off cover due to rampant understaffing it's probably closer to 25,000.

It's been a long way down from a private army of 230,000 in 2003.
TopperGas wrote:
28 Oct 2025, 19:40
As far as getting the Government to change the gig economy workers used by EVRI etc, I've not seen them ever mention that they are proposing to make any changes?
Labour had a manifesto pledge for the Employment Rights Bill (aka Workers' Rights Bill) that the unions had pushed for which was supposed to tackle these shenanigans. Alas, once in power the government has been trying to shelve it in order to placate the markets. Gold sovereigns trump sovereign government.
The only changes relevant to EVRI etc relates to zero hours contracts but if their drivers are all self employed it won't apply to them anyway.