What a bonkers day

[Jonathan Alsatian]

I recently delivered a large Amazon box which was one of a shipment of 3 large boxes according to the householder. While I was there PFW turned up with box number 2 and the householder told me box 3 was delivered by an Amazon van an hour earlier. I can't figure out the logic of splitting a shipment of 3 big boxes between RM, Parcelforce and themselves. The recipient was equally dumfounded.

[A2B]

The parcels may well have come from 3 different Amazon depots

[Rve83ndxd]

Or you don't get it cheaper for having one driver do all three.

[postslippete]

Perhaps they get AI or some sort of algorithm to look at the history of previous deliveries of an address to see how long it took, complaints received, size (as you mention), how it fits in with other deliveries in an area.

Basically they stitch us up with the inefficient, difficult stuff I would imagine.

Wouldn't surprise me as Amazon has one of the most advanced logistics systems right now. I've noticed that we have been getting large Amazon parcels to certain addresses which are not rural and I know for a fact that the recipient is never in and there is nowhere safe to leave it. They are most definitely using a history of failed deliveries or access issues to determine whether to offload their stuff on us. I was informed that there was a fun run on a Sunday months ago and there were dozens of Amazon parcels on that particular route that was given to RM so they often plan ahead as well.

Unfortunately, RM are never going to turn work down.

[Kenfandango]

Amazon won't touch certain areas based on parking restrictions as well- one of our sections gets all Amazon packets due to their drivers (owner/drivers) getting ticketed so often and our local Amazon hub not having enough liveried vans to cover it, so they just shaft RM

[ted_e_bear]

Yeah to Amazon we're the cuck of parcel delivery, I bet we even give them a really low discounted rate as well.

[Mr Rush]

Yeah to Amazon we're the cuck of parcel delivery, I bet we even give them a really low discounted rate as well.

If Amazon want access to our network they should be DSA packets and given the requisite 3rd class treatment. Say RM turned down Amazon's money, would we all be short of work every day? Methinks not based on how many walks are failing.

[TopperGas]

Yeah to Amazon we're the cuck of parcel delivery, I bet we even give them a really low discounted rate as well.

If Amazon want access to our network they should be DSA packets and given the requisite 3rd class treatment. Say RM turned down Amazon's money, would we all be short of work every day? Methinks not based on how many walks are failing.

But RM would miss out on whatever Amazon is paying them for each Tracked item? Amazon could well be keeping RM viable at present given that profits with their work is only minimal.

[Hitcher]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

[goldy2007]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

Letters don’t lose money ( that is the myth they want to sell to prioritise parcels )

They make a profit

[TopperGas]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

Letters don’t lose money ( that is the myth they want to sell to prioritise parcels )

They make a profit

How can they when RM makes just £12m profits p.a. after delivering billions a year?

[goldy2007]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

Letters don’t lose money ( that is the myth they want to sell to prioritise parcels )

They make a profit

How can they when RM makes just £12m profits p.a. after delivering billions a year?

They make 3.4 billion on letter revenue the business is only quick to tell people how much % letters fall in volume year on year

never how much they make in Revenue that bit gets hidden away they aren’t losing money just other areas make more

If you look at a full tray circa 200 odd letters then that would over £200 per tray and look at how little room that takes in your van now put in £200 of parcels
They are still a very profitable part

[Perseus]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

Letters don’t lose money ( that is the myth they want to sell to prioritise parcels )

They make a profit

How can they when RM makes just £12m profits p.a. after delivering billions a year?

They make 3.4 billion on letter revenue the business is only quick to tell people how much % letters fall in volume year on year

never how much they make in Revenue that bit gets hidden away they aren’t losing money just other areas make more

If you look at a full tray circa 200 odd letters then that would over £200 per tray and look at how little room that takes in your van now put in £200 of parcels
They are still a very profitable part

A tray of 200 letters will yield no where near £200 worth of business to RM. They literally get pennies per item for 'junk mail' and bulk posting items from banks/clothing companies/clubcard statements etc. Which is what the majority of items are in a tray of 200 items. However, if it was a tray of 200 stamped first class letters at £1.70 a pop, then kerching...

[goldy2007]

Yeah, parcels make money whereas letters lose money.

Letters don’t lose money ( that is the myth they want to sell to prioritise parcels )

They make a profit

How can they when RM makes just £12m profits p.a. after delivering billions a year?

They make 3.4 billion on letter revenue the business is only quick to tell people how much % letters fall in volume year on year

never how much they make in Revenue that bit gets hidden away they aren’t losing money just other areas make more

If you look at a full tray circa 200 odd letters then that would over £200 per tray and look at how little room that takes in your van now put in £200 of parcels
They are still a very profitable part

A tray of 200 letters will yield no where near £200 worth of business to RM. They literally get pennies per item for 'junk mail' and bulk posting items from banks/clothing companies/clubcard statements etc. Which is what the majority of items are in a tray of 200 items. However, if it was a tray of 200 stamped first class letters at £1.70 a pop, then kerching...

Letters still make RM billions in revenue they don’t lose money

[Londonsburning]

When the board agreed to earning less than 0.01 pence per item for most 'letters' many years ago, I can assure you RM doesn't make anywhere near the billions that you think lol.