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Londonsburning
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Londonsburning »

Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 19:21
Not much extra, but that is a side point. It's pre booked guaranteed overtime rather than ad hoc 'Can you work you day off this week' requests.
Don't agree to day off scheduled then. If you need to work your day off for monetary reasons then start looking for another job because RM wages are a joke.
qwerty2
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Re: removed from duty

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cuboid wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 19:32
qwerty2 wrote:
23 Feb 2025, 22:48
cuboid wrote:
23 Feb 2025, 21:08
Hi All. I was working my rest day every week on S/A. There was a change of circumstances in my personal life and I was unable to continue working my rest days so I gave 4 weeks notice. My manager has said that if I come off my S/A rest days he will move me from my actual duty. This can't be right as my duty and overtime are 2 separate things. Any advice would be great
Is your manager called Richard head? :cuppa
no :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left:
Perseus
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Perseus »

If i'm not mistaken, these 5 days plus 1 on S/A were requested by staff as a local agreement years ago. So it's not as simple as saying they don't agree to do it.
Londonsburning
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Londonsburning »

Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 19:53
If i'm not mistaken, these 5 days plus 1 on S/A were requested by staff as a local agreement years ago. So it's not as simple as saying they don't agree to do it.
Does your DO have floaters to cover day off? What about reserve duties? How many 'official' walks at your office, not including all the lapsed duties chopped up and added onto walks at this present time?
cuboid
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Re: removed from duty

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Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:42
Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:37
Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:06
The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.
S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.
I've never seen day off scheduled in a delivery office to cover your own walk tbh. That would not put you at the front of the queue anyways. Are you in a DO?
S/A for any delivery OPGs has always been collections at the local MC
Yes I'm in a DO. about 30% of the office work there rest days on SA. It has been going on for years. I signed for a duty like everybody else in seniority order. I agreed to work my rest day on SA. Due to personal circumstances I can no longer work my rest day. I gave 4 weeks notice to come off my rest day. My manager has now removed me from my duty and put me reserve. This can't be right
Perseus
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Re: removed from duty

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Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:14
Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 19:53
If i'm not mistaken, these 5 days plus 1 on S/A were requested by staff as a local agreement years ago. So it's not as simple as saying they don't agree to do it.
Does your DO have floaters to cover day off? What about reserve duties? How many 'official' walks at your office, not including all the lapsed duties chopped up and added onto walks at this present time?
You'll need to ask people who have day off on S/A those questions.

Suffice to say, they won't need as many day off covers, will they?
Londonsburning
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Londonsburning »

cuboid wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:34
Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:42
Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:37
Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:06
The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.
S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.
I've never seen day off scheduled in a delivery office to cover your own walk tbh. That would not put you at the front of the queue anyways. Are you in a DO?
S/A for any delivery OPGs has always been collections at the local MC
Yes I'm in a DO. about 30% of the office work there rest days on SA. It has been going on for years. I signed for a duty like everybody else in seniority order. I agreed to work my rest day on SA. Due to personal circumstances I can no longer work my rest day. I gave 4 weeks notice to come off my rest day. My manager has now removed me from my duty and put me reserve. This can't be right
The question is why does your DO work on day off scheduled?
burtons
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Re: removed from duty

Post by burtons »

Unbelievable working sa on day off.never heard of it
Perseus
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Perseus »

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Yes I'm in a DO. about 30% of the office work there rest days on SA. It has been going on for years. I signed for a duty like everybody else in seniority order. I agreed to work my rest day on SA. Due to personal circumstances I can no longer work my rest day. I gave 4 weeks notice to come off my rest day. My manager has now removed me from my duty and put me reserve. This can't be right
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Did you start doing the S/A day off as soon as you signed for that duty? i.e. was it a condition of doing that duty?

Is the person who is now doing the duty now working their day off on it?
A2B
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Re: removed from duty

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burtons wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:51
Unbelievable working sa on day off.never heard of it
Neither have I and I can't see how that is a fair allocation of overtime
cuboid
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Re: removed from duty

Post by cuboid »

A2B wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:58
burtons wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:51
Unbelievable working sa on day off.never heard of it
Neither have I and I can't see how that is a fair allocation of overtime
I agree with both your comment but what do you think about me being removed from my duty ?
cuboid
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Re: removed from duty

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Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:48
cuboid wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:34
Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:42
Perseus wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:37
Londonsburning wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 18:06
The only reason I can think of agreeing to work your day off as 'scheduled' is getting paid the extra money when you're on holiday. Nowadays if you work your day off every week you get that payment anyway.
S/A rate for overtime is higher than standard overtime rate.

Plus it also puts you at the front of the queue for any overtime, pretty much guaranteed.
As I've said, it must be a managers dream to resource and in this case they aren't happy about the OP exercising their right to stop doing it.
I've never seen day off scheduled in a delivery office to cover your own walk tbh. That would not put you at the front of the queue anyways. Are you in a DO?
S/A for any delivery OPGs has always been collections at the local MC
Yes I'm in a DO. about 30% of the office work there rest days on SA. It has been going on for years. I signed for a duty like everybody else in seniority order. I agreed to work my rest day on SA. Due to personal circumstances I can no longer work my rest day. I gave 4 weeks notice to come off my rest day. My manager has now removed me from my duty and put me reserve. This can't be right
The question is why does your DO work on day off scheduled?
Agreed locally by CWU and management. do you think I should be removed from my duty?
Londonsburning
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Londonsburning »

You cover your own walk on scheduled attendance on day off? :thumbdown Umm f***ing right you should be questioning why that is even allowed at your DO pal :crazy:
A2B
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Re: removed from duty

Post by A2B »

cuboid wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 21:50
A2B wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:58
burtons wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 20:51
Unbelievable working sa on day off.never heard of it
Neither have I and I can't see how that is a fair allocation of overtime
I agree with both your comment but what do you think about me being removed from my duty ?
I don't know what to say as to me it shouldn't have been implemented in the first place and it's now a case of does two wrongs make a right?

Nobody on here can change your situation, take it to the union and see where you end up.
Perseus
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Re: removed from duty

Post by Perseus »

People can go round in circles arguing that it shouldn't happen etc, but the fact is that it does.
Years ago in some offices they decided that they would rather have guaranteed S/A overtime to cover their day off rather than employ someone else to do it - i.e. reserves.
There are many things like this such as differing shift patterns etc.

Now, the pertinent point here, is did the OP sign for a duty that already had the condition of S/A for day off on it, or was this added on later? If you've signed for a duty that had S/A as a condition, and only you know this, then that could be why you've been taken off the duty.