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[SpacePhoenix]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

[Perseus]

What’s been happening to the supernumerary in mail centres?

None locally, a few have retired or quit.

For any supernumaries in DOs after all this, they'll be made to move to a new DO

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

No surplus any more. It was dealt with by the ones that quit or retired

Maybe DO staff will quit or retire then?

[Clappedoutpostie]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

My point still stands.

[Sean06]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

My point still stands.

Your point is probably correct how many do staff could bear being in a mc being watched all day.works both ways.

[Sean06]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

Don,t know where you work space but no (casuals in our mc) agency yes but last month or so they are getting very little shifts.

[Acca Dacca]

So the issue with the supernumeraries in mail centres is there is no issue

[SpacePhoenix]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

Don,t know where you work space but no (casuals in our mc) agency yes but last month or so they are getting very little shifts.

Most people just call any casuals/agency casuals. They're still getting plenty of shifts, many daily.

So the issue with the supernumeraries in mail centres is there is no issue

Don't think it'll be an issue for much longer in DOs with the turnover rate of staff in DOs being mentioned in various threads. If it ends up with too many people in a DO, they'll just get moved to a new office. Being moved to a new office AFAIK is standard for supernumeraries in RM

[Acca Dacca]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

Don,t know where you work space but no (casuals in our mc) agency yes but last month or so they are getting very little shifts.

Most people just call any casuals/agency casuals. They're still getting plenty of shifts, many daily.

So the issue with the supernumeraries in mail centres is there is no issue

Don't think it'll be an issue for much longer in DOs with the turnover rate of staff in DOs being mentioned in various threads. If it ends up with too many people in a DO, they'll just get moved to a new office. Being moved to a new office AFAIK is standard for supernumeraries in RM

It would need to be the newer staff getting moved though

Its not in my contract ( pre 2009 ) that I can be moved to any DO permanently

[SpacePhoenix]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

[claretandblue]

Why aren't mail centre surplus made to move to DO's? Genuine question.

They wouldn’t last 5 minutes, most will admit this so it’s not controversial.

RM don't want people on "legacy" contracts in DOs. In MCs over time we're being replaced with casuals

Don,t know where you work space but no (casuals in our mc) agency yes but last month or so they are getting very little shifts.

Most people just call any casuals/agency casuals. They're still getting plenty of shifts, many daily.

So the issue with the supernumeraries in mail centres is there is no issue

Don't think it'll be an issue for much longer in DOs with the turnover rate of staff in DOs being mentioned in various threads. If it ends up with too many people in a DO, they'll just get moved to a new office. Being moved to a new office AFAIK is standard for supernumeraries in RM

It would need to be the newer staff getting moved though

Its not in my contract ( pre 2009 ) that I can be moved to any DO permanently

You would have enough seniority not to be moved anyway.

[smok3y666]

We've been told 12 less in our office, there's 2 vacancies that they aren't filling, someone's left so we're already down to 9, they said rest would be natural reduction, maybe 1 or 2 voluntaries.

How many in your office currently

60ish

[Acca Dacca]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

[Jb1969]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

Absolutely, but I’m not sure RM understands how it works either!

[Acca Dacca]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

Absolutely, but I’m not sure RM understands how it works either!

Thats their problem then

[SpacePhoenix]

Pre or post 2009 contract is irrelevant. Anyone who is declared a supernumerary WILL be moved to a new office if there isn't room at their current one, your other choice is your P45.

I dont think you understand how employment law works Spacers

If it hadn't been for RM being able to find space for them on other shifts, they would have had no choice. It would have been either move to another office or "here's your P45". I started in the very early 2000s and my contract I'm fairly sure mentions working at any office, that clause has probably been in everyone's contracts for many years