Change your contract old timer ?

[Wullie10]

When I started 100 years ago the older posties were saying exactly same. We would take away all the overtime and bang the best jobs etc and the best line , i am leaving ( they never did ) . And we all know most new recruits rarely last more than 6 months. No manager would willingly lose an experienced worker for someone new. It would make their job much harder. As for forcing people out , Anyone 50 or over with years experience is not leaving to stack the shelf at Tesco despite what they say.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Anyone 50 or over with years experience is not leaving to stack the shelf at Tesco despite what they say.

except me. Handed notice in today, working on till 60th Birthday.

[HTPostman]

When I started 100 years ago the older posties were saying exactly same. We would take away all the overtime and bang the best jobs etc and the best line , i am leaving ( they never did ) . And we all know most new recruits rarely last more than 6 months. No manager would willingly lose an experienced worker for someone new. It would make their job much harder. As for forcing people out , Anyone 50 or over with years experience is not leaving to stack the shelf at Tesco despite what they say.

100 years ago?!

[ted_e_bear]

When I started 100 years ago the older posties were saying exactly same. We would take away all the overtime and bang the best jobs etc and the best line , i am leaving ( they never did ) . And we all know most new recruits rarely last more than 6 months. No manager would willingly lose an experienced worker for someone new. It would make their job much harder. As for forcing people out , Anyone 50 or over with years experience is not leaving to stack the shelf at Tesco despite what they say.

100 years ago?!

It just seems that long, mind you when I first started I would have believed some of the old timers had been there that long if it was actually possible

[TopperGas]

When I’m on a new posties contract I’ll behave exactly how they do, land in whenever, don’t sort or prep, leave D2Ds untouched for weeks, hit vans and don’t report it, whinge that I’ve worked my hours and just do packets for a day. I can’t wait where do I sign?

You won’t like it. But you should embrace it because. Royal Mail.

Best one I heard was I’m too tired not coming in tomorrow

We've had that one. We've also had 'I didn't realise there would be so much walking' and 'I don't like it, I was cold yesterday '.

To fair on the first point I doubt any other job prepares somebody to walk 20K+ steps per day, particularly outside.

[enskied]

This is whats coming - No more full time jobs for part timers

That's already here, not had anyone made up for 20 years.

[Navalron]

Our biggest expense is our wages (which a few years ago was around £5 billion a year) and ever since the company have been "rightsizing" the business. In the deal the CWU is committed to securing improvements for staff on inferior contracts and levelling them up on a par with those who were recruited before 1st December 2022; but it depends on the success of Royal Mail returning to "profitability" and whether it achieves sustained growth. For me this is all a bit vague and the anomaly here is that the company would suggest that one of the main reasons for profitability is due to paying staff less!! They have said numerous times that they still pay well above the 'market rate' and I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer some sort of bonus as recompense (it's Royal Mail's way - just ask your COM what bonus they got for taking duties out...) instead of any real terms wage rise....Don't forget there are still thousands of workers that are on part-time contracts instead of full-time, and many of them have been working full-time for years.

My personal feeling is that it depends on how strong our Union is and considering that thousands of postal workers have boycotted the Union since they capitulated and are struggling to recruit new members, could well play into Royal Mail's hands.

The new contracts are £12.29 per hour with unpaid meal relief and no delivery supplement. The minimum wage will be £1144 in 4 weeks. For 73pence an hour more is it worth all the s**t. I can see a lot of the new people leaving. Why work on Sundays or weekends at all. There are plenty of jobs out their. Can you see the new collection drivers working on a Saturday 14:30/ 19:30, missing the football or out with the family or in the local with mates ect ect. It used to worry putting up with the shifts because of nda ect, but when your basic is pennies above the minimum wage, you know it's not and you know exactly what your employer thinks of you. And remember it was RM who gave away most of the profit they had made.

[Navalron]

Our biggest expense is our wages (which a few years ago was around £5 billion a year) and ever since the company have been "rightsizing" the business. In the deal the CWU is committed to securing improvements for staff on inferior contracts and levelling them up on a par with those who were recruited before 1st December 2022; but it depends on the success of Royal Mail returning to "profitability" and whether it achieves sustained growth. For me this is all a bit vague and the anomaly here is that the company would suggest that one of the main reasons for profitability is due to paying staff less!! They have said numerous times that they still pay well above the 'market rate' and I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer some sort of bonus as recompense (it's Royal Mail's way - just ask your COM what bonus they got for taking duties out...) instead of any real terms wage rise....Don't forget there are still thousands of workers that are on part-time contracts instead of full-time, and many of them have been working full-time for years.

My personal feeling is that it depends on how strong our Union is and considering that thousands of postal workers have boycotted the Union since they capitulated and are struggling to recruit new members, could well play into Royal Mail's hands.

The new contracts are £12.29 per hour with unpaid meal relief and no delivery supplement. The minimum wage will be £1144 in 4 weeks. For 73pence an hour more is it worth all the s**t. I can see a lot of the new people leaving. Why work on Sundays or weekends at all. There are plenty of jobs out their. Can you see the new collection drivers working on a Saturday 14:30/ 19:30, missing the football or out with the family or in the local with mates ect ect. It used to worry putting up with the shifts because of nda ect, but when your basic is pennies above the minimum wage, you know it's not and you know exactly what your employer thinks of you. And remember it was RM who gave away most of the profit they had made.

£11:44 per hour.

[SMS1969]

The crap contracts are actually £12.59 an hour, going up to £12.84 in April. Still poor though, should be on the same money as older contracts after 6 months, not 5 years!

[TopperGas]

Our biggest expense is our wages (which a few years ago was around £5 billion a year) and ever since the company have been "rightsizing" the business. In the deal the CWU is committed to securing improvements for staff on inferior contracts and levelling them up on a par with those who were recruited before 1st December 2022; but it depends on the success of Royal Mail returning to "profitability" and whether it achieves sustained growth. For me this is all a bit vague and the anomaly here is that the company would suggest that one of the main reasons for profitability is due to paying staff less!! They have said numerous times that they still pay well above the 'market rate' and I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer some sort of bonus as recompense (it's Royal Mail's way - just ask your COM what bonus they got for taking duties out...) instead of any real terms wage rise....Don't forget there are still thousands of workers that are on part-time contracts instead of full-time, and many of them have been working full-time for years.

My personal feeling is that it depends on how strong our Union is and considering that thousands of postal workers have boycotted the Union since they capitulated and are struggling to recruit new members, could well play into Royal Mail's hands.

The new contracts are £12.29 per hour with unpaid meal relief and no delivery supplement. The minimum wage will be £1144 in 4 weeks. For 73pence an hour more is it worth all the s**t. I can see a lot of the new people leaving. Why work on Sundays or weekends at all. There are plenty of jobs out their. Can you see the new collection drivers working on a Saturday 14:30/ 19:30, missing the football or out with the family or in the local with mates ect ect. It used to worry putting up with the shifts because of nda ect, but when your basic is pennies above the minimum wage, you know it's not and you know exactly what your employer thinks of you. And remember it was RM who gave away most of the profit they had made.

Not every potential employee watches or plays football or has got a family etc, who do you think works in shops etc and customer service centres etc on a Saturday pm? Whether we're paying enough per hour is another matter, Sunday seems the real killer as who wants to work on most peoples day of rest for the same rate of pay?

[ted_e_bear]

The crap contracts are actually £12.59 an hour, going up to £12.84 in April. Still poor though, should be on the same money as older contracts after 6 months, not 5 years!

Nah definitely £12.29 currently

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[Mick100]

I’m 60 so get reasonable amount on 60 pension so can ditch this job do something 2 or 3 days a week make my money up,anyone under 55 seriously needs to look at getting out because this job an terms an conditions are only going to get worse

[CarryingMGMT]

Nah definitely £12.29 currently
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Unless you are Smoothbackground, then your cushy new contract is on £14.58 an hour...and that's outwith London apparently.