The "How was your day" thread.

[SpacePhoenix]

Seniority is all that counts. When a walk comes available, a notice will be put up in the office and anyone can apply for it. The most senior person that applies will be given it.

Unless they've not been on their current duty for 12 months

[norris9]

Seniority is all that counts. When a walk comes available, a notice will be put up in the office and anyone can apply for it. The most senior person that applies will be given it.

I have heard about this Seniority thing.... I need to look into it. Don't know what it is.


ok, cool.... there is a walk at work that may go up for grabs, but I don't want it. I was worried I'd be told by management that they are permanently putting me on it.

[clashcityrocker]

If a walk becomes vacant it can be given to a reserve for 6 months before being put up for signing.

[norris9]

If a walk becomes vacant it can be given to a reserve for 6 months before being put up for signing.

Are permanent walk positions Full-Time only?....

Are all Part-Timers, 'Floaters', endlessly moving around from walk to walk until they are successful in being offered a permanent walk?... and at that point they take that permanent walk...they become Full-Time employees?

[fb1969]

Most of our van shares are one part time and one full time. So everyone on those duties have signed for the specific duty.

Floats usually cover the same 5 duties as they cover the rostered day off, so there are full time floats and part time floats. Again those are signed for duties.

Reserves are the ones that are moved around from week to week, or day to day, as they usually cover for absences. There are full time and part time reserves and although they are moved around they could end up on the same duty for some time if someone is absent for a long time. Reserves are the people without a signed for duty, they are usually the people with the lowest seniority but I know of some who prefer being a reserve.

If a full timer leaves a part timer should be given the option to be made full time. That would only as a full timer, it wouldn't necessarily be for the 'vacant' duty. So a part timer with a signed for duty could be offered a full time position, but they may have to become a reserve if they took it.

That's how things are in our office anyway!

[HTPostman]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

[norris9]

Most of our van shares are one part time and one full time. So everyone on those duties have signed for the specific duty.

Floats usually cover the same 5 duties as they cover the rostered day off, so there are full time floats and part time floats. Again those are signed for duties.

Reserves are the ones that are moved around from week to week, or day to day, as they usually cover for absences. There are full time and part time reserves and although they are moved around they could end up on the same duty for some time if someone is absent for a long time. Reserves are the people without a signed for duty, they are usually the people with the lowest seniority but I know of some who prefer being a reserve.

If a full timer leaves a part timer should be given the option to be made full time. That would only as a full timer, it wouldn't necessarily be for the 'vacant' duty. So a part timer with a signed for duty could be offered a full time position, but they may have to become a reserve if they took it.

That's how things are in our office anyway!

Cheers, this is great info.

When you say 'signed for the duty', do you mean they have literally signed something stating that they agree to be designated to that duty for the foreseeable future? or at least verbally agree to be?

[Celgar]

Not too good, found out today all our offices duty rota is incorrect on this psp system, so all those due BH credits were given to someone who had a day off in that week, and we don't know how long it's been going on. Smart. Don't have a clue what my A/l actually is!!!!!

All the most important information should be on the main notice board in your DO. We currently have the duty rotas up for about the next ten weeks, the annual leave (AL) list up showing all leave up to nearly April 2020, and a sheet showing excess hours of AL not booked. You should also have received a sheet showing when and how many hours of AL you have allocated and your excess left to book. AL is supposed to be all sorted out by the end of October for the following years AL.

[norris9]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

What do you think about fellow postie partners asking a newbie or any van share postie to come in early....

I am a newbie and was told by a partner that I was put with that I should come in 15 minutes early as 'that would help us out'....

I hate other people telling me what to do who have no authority to do so and are just doing it for their own gain. It is especially annoying when this Postie needs to stop off for 3 or 4 toilet breaks a round. Even if it's medical and you need to pee that much.... you are still costing your fellow patient Postie time, so bugga off telling me what to do so you can save a few minutes when you are costing me minutes everyday with all your pissing.

I don't think me coming in 15 mins early would help much anyway, if at all, as It would just be to help sort and mark up the parcels. When you are new to a frame and you have no idea where each road/house number is on the frame - it takes 5x as long to find the slot for the house you need to mark up compared to someone who has been doing it for months let alone years.....then a few days or weeks later you are moved on to another frame anyway.

[Celgar]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

Posties all generally want to get done earlier on Saturdays - as the customer always says 'have a nice weekend'. A lot of posties want to watch football on the TV or maybe even go to the match or have other things to do. In theory it could or should be alright to come in earlier thereby moving your work time 'window' forward but still working your required hours. In practice RM don't see it this way so if you finish earlier they don't like it and the DOM is liable to be questioned or pressured at a later date.
There should be someone manning the DO until the last postie returns on a Saturday - either the DOM and/or the 'PHG' usually. I know the 'PHG' grade doesn't exist now but you get what I mean.
We are expecting the poll cards for the European Elections on Monday. I don't usually go in early nowadays but I will as the cards have to be counted which takes a while.

[yellowbelly]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

What do you think about fellow postie partners asking a newbie or any van share postie to come in early....

I am a newbie and was told by a partner that I was put with that I should come in 15 minutes early as 'that would help us out'....

I hate other people telling me what to do who have no authority to do so and are just doing it for their own gain. It is especially annoying when this Postie needs to stop off for 3 or 4 toilet breaks a round. Even if it's medical and you need to pee that much.... you are still costing your fellow patient Postie time, so bugga off telling me what to do so you can save a few minutes when you are costing me minutes everyday with all your pissing.

I don't think me coming in 15 mins early would help much anyway, if at all, as It would just be to help sort and mark up the parcels. When you are new to a frame and you have no idea where each road/house number is on the frame - it takes 5x as long to find the slot for the house you need to mark up compared to someone who has been doing it for months let alone years.....then a few days or weeks later you are moved on to another frame anyway.

'that would help us out' - yes - at your expense - has the manager authorised the extra 15 mins overtime because another postie said to come in early?

If your partner is regular on the round surely they can assist you? I've worked two to a frame when I've got a newbie on a van share. Invariably it's when we're catching
up on putting flats into the frame and if it's addressed to his/her end of the frame I just chuck to the left/right as appropriate saying 'your side' or I just say 'carry on I'll work around you'. Then when all the flats are in I move back to my frame to do packets and parcels - time made up, no dramas.

If it's that much of a problem then they should use the over running procedure and put the ball back in the managers court, instead of asking you to possibly work for free.

[Celgar]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

What do you think about fellow postie partners asking a newbie or any van share postie to come in early....

I am a newbie and was told by a partner that I was put with that I should come in 15 minutes early as 'that would help us out'....

I hate other people telling me what to do who have no authority to do so and are just doing it for their own gain. It is especially annoying when this Postie needs to stop off for 3 or 4 toilet breaks a round. Even if it's medical and you need to pee that much.... you are still costing your fellow patient Postie time, so bugga off telling me what to do so you can save a few minutes when you are costing me minutes everyday with all your pissing.

I don't think me coming in 15 mins early would help much anyway, if at all, as It would just be to help sort and mark up the parcels. When you are new to a frame and you have no idea where each road/house number is on the frame - it takes 5x as long to find the slot for the house you need to mark up compared to someone who has been doing it for months let alone years.....then a few days or weeks later you are moved on to another frame anyway.

There is supposed to be a regulation that new posties have to stay on their first walk for the first six months to learn the job. If this hasn't been done with you and you're moved around a lot then the DOM etc is not allowed to make comments about you being slow. If possible best to start as you mean to continue and not come in early.

[Celgar]

Yesterday was a funny old day. I was the only one who started on time, everyone else came in early for free.

It's ridiculous that as I'm putting my first letters in some are bundling up. You have some getting back from their rounds at 1pm (the DOM and 6-7 linos are usually gone by midday) whereas those on rurals don't get back while 4pm.

Poll cards a plenty, took where I was going at 3p a card and earned an extra £10. Every little helps.

On my return to the office had a quick chat with a female colleague. An intelligent sort, I made the point the workloads will never even out. I was expecting some well thought out logical response...instead her reply was "best thing to do is come in early for free so you can get out at a decent time."

Each to their own.

What do you think about fellow postie partners asking a newbie or any van share postie to come in early....

I am a newbie and was told by a partner that I was put with that I should come in 15 minutes early as 'that would help us out'....

I hate other people telling me what to do who have no authority to do so and are just doing it for their own gain. It is especially annoying when this Postie needs to stop off for 3 or 4 toilet breaks a round. Even if it's medical and you need to pee that much.... you are still costing your fellow patient Postie time, so bugga off telling me what to do so you can save a few minutes when you are costing me minutes everyday with all your pissing.

I don't think me coming in 15 mins early would help much anyway, if at all, as It would just be to help sort and mark up the parcels. When you are new to a frame and you have no idea where each road/house number is on the frame - it takes 5x as long to find the slot for the house you need to mark up compared to someone who has been doing it for months let alone years.....then a few days or weeks later you are moved on to another frame anyway.

'that would help us out' - yes - at your expense - has the manager authorised the extra 15 mins overtime because another postie said to come in early?

If your partner is regular on the round surely they can assist you? I've worked two to a frame when I've got a newbie on a van share. Invariably it's when we're catching
up on putting flats into the frame and if it's addressed to his/her end of the frame I just chuck to the left/right as appropriate saying 'your side' or I just say 'carry on I'll work around you'. Then when all the flats are in I move back to my frame to do packets and parcels - time made up, no dramas.

If it's that much of a problem then they should use the over running procedure and put the ball back in the managers court, instead of asking you to possibly work for free.

^^ This is the best answer - help new posties out if it is possible to do so but don't go over your time if is going to be difficult or impossible to book.

[norris9]

Posties all generally want to get done earlier on Saturdays - as the customer always says 'have a nice weekend'. A lot of posties want to watch football on the TV or maybe even go to the match or have other things to do. In theory it could or should be alright to come in earlier thereby moving your work time 'window' forward but still working your required hours. In practice RM don't see it this way so if you finish earlier they don't like it and the DOM is liable to be questioned or pressured at a later date.
There should be someone manning the DO until the last postie returns on a Saturday - either the DOM and/or the 'PHG' usually. I know the 'PHG' grade doesn't exist now but you get what I mean.
We are expecting the poll cards for the European Elections on Monday. I don't usually go in early nowadays but I will as the cards have to be counted which takes a while.

I am not specifically talking about Saturdays. I am talking about everyday. He wants me in 15 minutes earlier everyday I work with him.

If I actually thought it would benefit us then I'd do it, but I don't think it will. I think he's probably just trying to get me to do work so he doesn't have to. I wouldn't be surprised if I came in early and he's nowhere to be seen because he's in the canteen having a break while I am marking up the parcels that he otherwise would have been.

It's just frustrating coming from him as he could quite easily save us time. I think there I wait in the van for him for a net 20 minutes on average, whereas he maybe waits for me for 5 minutes. If he wanted to make up time he could speed up or stop drinking tea and coffee in the morning.

[norris9]

'that would help us out' - yes - at your expense - has the manager authorised the extra 15 mins overtime because another postie said to come in early?

If your partner is regular on the round surely they can assist you? I've worked two to a frame when I've got a newbie on a van share. Invariably it's when we're catching
up on putting flats into the frame and if it's addressed to his/her end of the frame I just chuck to the left/right as appropriate saying 'your side' or I just say 'carry on I'll work around you'. Then when all the flats are in I move back to my frame to do packets and parcels - time made up, no dramas.

No authorisation from the manager.

I am not sure why, this round is not that bad, or at least doesn't feel that bad, but we finish late every time. I think I have got my speed up to close to the best I am going to ever get as a reserve. With other Posties I have been out with they seem a bit more proactive, don't need pee breaks, and usually all finish their loops before me.... apart from this dude. So I actually think that if this guy wants to save time then he should speed up and if he drinks a load of tea and coffee in the morning then he should cut down and not expect me to save him time by coming in early.

But to be fair to us, I think I am usually with him on the busy days. Not sure we have had a single light day yet.

When I get in to the DO the parcels have been done or more or less been done. I just do redirections and bag up. I don't need help with that.

I have done the marking up of parcels with a Postie before and honestly I think the Postie who is familiar to the frame would get it done faster if I wasn't there in his way dithering trying to find where the heck number 69 Bing Bong Lane is. Sometimes Bing Bong Lane is actually on another frame the other side of the office and I wouldn't have a clue, I'd be there for 1 minute trying to find the effer on my frame.