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The "How was your day" thread.

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Postie45
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dave72 wrote:Parcelgeddon!

Remember at one time at Christmas when they used to stop d2ds and deferred the crap mail like catalogue's, not any more it seems :arrrghhh

Also, 30+ specials (and rising) between 2 p&l and we are not getting out until 11, 2 hours to fit in these specials on top of everything else is starting to piss me off
dont get pissed off about it, if you want to do OT its up to you, if you want to just work your hours then thats fine too just get the specials done and whatever else you can do up to the finish time (hopefully you know cut off procedure) its win-win really. Dont feel bullied to complete !
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Postie45 wrote:
dave72 wrote:Parcelgeddon!

Remember at one time at Christmas when they used to stop d2ds and deferred the crap mail like catalogue's, not any more it seems :arrrghhh

Also, 30+ specials (and rising) between 2 p&l and we are not getting out until 11, 2 hours to fit in these specials on top of everything else is starting to piss me off
dont get pissed off about it, if you want to do OT its up to you, if you want to just work your hours then thats fine too just get the specials done and whatever else you can do up to the finish time (hopefully you know cut off procedure) its win-win really. Dont feel bullied to complete !
Oh don't worry, we are leaving trays and trays of mail and we've made a nice pile of packets we don't have time to take out, adding to it daily and I can't see it being cleared for Christmas now

I work my time, and do everything by the book but asking or telling the manager just seems to fall on deaf ears or a blank look of I can hear him talking to me but I am not listening or understanding lalalalala

We get the usual, "no extra vans" - We have 2 sat outside our office from 8am to 11am doing nothing :crazy: 3hrs per van wasted daily :crazy:

No extra staff - no annual leave now, so where are the cover staff? :hmmmm
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sounds similar to my office, managers have the attitude that youre expected to do OT, its just not on. They could have asked us months ago who will be preprared to extend at xmas and planned accordingly, but once again they do nothing.
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Postie45 wrote:sounds similar to my office, managers have the attitude that youre expected to do OT, its just not on. They could have asked us months ago who will be preprared to extend at xmas and planned accordingly, but once again they do nothing.
One had the cheek to say, "it's posties fault for not doing overtime to clear or stop the back log happenng" :shock:
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Our sequenced mail got lost! Made for a pretty good Wednesday. Chuffed to be off tomorrow!!
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Postie45 wrote:sounds similar to my office, managers have the attitude that youre expected to do OT, its just not on.
Know the feeling, but I refuse to work over my time. Ive left a lot of parcels last week to be delivered by who ever and some were carried over 2 days. Now resorted to getting colleagues to deliver parcels in the morning as walks are prepped.

Seems ridiculous they expect us to still be able to complete on time. Also find it funny managers expect us to go over but once its time for them to go, they are out the office bang on time.
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Truly the sh*ttiest day of the year - we were warned yesterday - and for once they were right lol - finished as it was going dark ... expecting similar tomorrow - will drag out my RM torch to take with me - just in case (will check batteries too !!).

... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
"We're under model" - oh no we're not - stick your lapse elsewhere ...
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RedBagMan wrote:Truly the sh*ttiest day of the year - we were warned yesterday - and for once they were right lol - finished as it was going dark ... expecting similar tomorrow - will drag out my RM torch to take with me - just in case (will check batteries too !!).

... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
That used to me.... Until RM wanted it all their own way, and the bullying and harassment started. After that I couldn't care less. Yes, I know some of my customers suffered when I used to cut off, but sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.
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Was expecting the worst after 2 light days but wasn't too bad, left my mate out to do my last bag on OT and headed home on my time.

Day off tomorrow :nana
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Mental day, the amount of 2nd class Christmas cards :shock: and I remember 15 years ago Royal Mail telling us the internet will kill the traditional Christmas Card :left:

Usual amount of ridiculous sized packets, this lark of "send anything, any size, any weight" Tracked is a killer at this time of year :arrrghhh

One bonus, only had 17 specials today :crazy:

Hoping for a nice quiet Friday :pray
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RedBagMan wrote:Truly the sh*ttiest day of the year - we were warned yesterday - and for once they were right lol - finished as it was going dark ... expecting similar tomorrow - will drag out my RM torch to take with me - just in case (will check batteries too !!).

... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
providing a 'service' for your customers ended many yrs ago, we are a business now, not a service. Don't feel guilty for cutting off, resource to workload are the buzz words. If the workload is too much, they need more resource. If you're happy to do the overtime, then don't moan about it, be happy. If you're not, don't moan about it either, cut off, simples.
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RedBagMan wrote: ... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
Posties do not have to justify why they only want to work the hours they actually signed a contract for. And managers and other posties attitudes to other people who want to only work their hours IS as you say "old fashioned". May I remind you of the expansion of duties over the past few years which whilst most of the year mean people are completing about on time (thats the intent of the system) however at this time of year when we`re getting extreme volumes of mail it is not possible to complete in duty time, where is RMs contingency for this ? its non existent apart from "oh the posties can stay out and finish" its just lazy management showing no planning and foresight and a complete ineptness to manage this time of year which shouldnt come as any surprise to them.
Lets also not forget how RM has managed to put in a system for the quieter periods in the summer and given us extra "lapsing" .. so they can organise and manage when it suits.
Im not saying dont stay out and complete, fill your boots, im glad you have both the free time available and the energy to do this, but please respect other people who dont want to stay out for many reasons, and its not because they dont care about their customers. Royal Mail as a business has a duty to have the mail delivered, they should know which posties do and dont want to stay out everyday and should get extra staff in accordingly, but RM hasnt done this which is where RM has failed the customers, not the individual posties.
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Postie45 wrote:
RedBagMan wrote: ... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
Posties do not have to justify why they only want to work the hours they actually signed a contract for. And managers and other posties attitudes to other people who want to only work their hours IS as you say "old fashioned". May I remind you of the expansion of duties over the past few years which whilst most of the year mean people are completing about on time (thats the intent of the system) however at this time of year when we`re getting extreme volumes of mail it is not possible to complete in duty time, where is RMs contingency for this ? its non existent apart from "oh the posties can stay out and finish" its just lazy management showing no planning and foresight and a complete ineptness to manage this time of year which shouldnt come as any surprise to them.
Lets also not forget how RM has managed to put in a system for the quieter periods in the summer and given us extra "lapsing" .. so they can organise and manage when it suits.
Im not saying dont stay out and complete, fill your boots, im glad you have both the free time available and the energy to do this, but please respect other people who dont want to stay out for many reasons, and its not because they dont care about their customers. Royal Mail as a business has a duty to have the mail delivered, they should know which posties do and dont want to stay out everyday and should get extra staff in accordingly, but RM hasnt done this which is where RM has failed the customers, not the individual posties.
Very well eloquently said.
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Postie45 wrote:
RedBagMan wrote: ... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
Posties do not have to justify why they only want to work the hours they actually signed a contract for. And managers and other posties attitudes to other people who want to only work their hours IS as you say "old fashioned". May I remind you of the expansion of duties over the past few years which whilst most of the year mean people are completing about on time (thats the intent of the system) however at this time of year when we`re getting extreme volumes of mail it is not possible to complete in duty time, where is RMs contingency for this ? its non existent apart from "oh the posties can stay out and finish" its just lazy management showing no planning and foresight and a complete ineptness to manage this time of year which shouldnt come as any surprise to them.
Lets also not forget how RM has managed to put in a system for the quieter periods in the summer and given us extra "lapsing" .. so they can organise and manage when it suits.
Im not saying dont stay out and complete, fill your boots, im glad you have both the free time available and the energy to do this, but please respect other people who dont want to stay out for many reasons, and its not because they dont care about their customers. Royal Mail as a business has a duty to have the mail delivered, they should know which posties do and dont want to stay out everyday and should get extra staff in accordingly, but RM hasnt done this which is where RM has failed the customers, not the individual posties.
Point taken sir ... being honest I've only been in this game for just under 6 years (enforced career change at 53 !) and even in that short time I've seen severe changes - and yes they are not good. I just get annoyed at the perpetual "work to you time/cut off" answer to all problems - to me it's no different to the Management "Can you work over" riposte ... there HAS to be some middle ground now and again ...
"We're under model" - oh no we're not - stick your lapse elsewhere ...
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Postie45 wrote:
RedBagMan wrote: ... and before the smart-arse "work to your time" brigade kick in - as they always do - some of us actually DO care about our customers (not just at Christmas but all the year round) - call us old-fashioned but ..
Posties do not have to justify why they only want to work the hours they actually signed a contract for. And managers and other posties attitudes to other people who want to only work their hours IS as you say "old fashioned". May I remind you of the expansion of duties over the past few years which whilst most of the year mean people are completing about on time (thats the intent of the system) however at this time of year when we`re getting extreme volumes of mail it is not possible to complete in duty time, where is RMs contingency for this ? its non existent apart from "oh the posties can stay out and finish" its just lazy management showing no planning and foresight and a complete ineptness to manage this time of year which shouldnt come as any surprise to them.
Lets also not forget how RM has managed to put in a system for the quieter periods in the summer and given us extra "lapsing" .. so they can organise and manage when it suits.
Im not saying dont stay out and complete, fill your boots, im glad you have both the free time available and the energy to do this, but please respect other people who dont want to stay out for many reasons, and its not because they dont care about their customers. Royal Mail as a business has a duty to have the mail delivered, they should know which posties do and dont want to stay out everyday and should get extra staff in accordingly, but RM hasnt done this which is where RM has failed the customers, not the individual posties.
Very well put and 100% correct. :thumbup

There is simply no system for covering the extra workload of a postie who wishes to finish on time other than offering more OT to already tired staff.
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